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I've been contemplating dropping ~3K on a nice gaming PC for a while.  With the announcement and pre-orders of the new Nvidia RTX 2080ti today, I decided to pull the trigger on pre-ordering one of them.  Now I need to build the rest of the system.  I know what I'm looking for, just don't know what specific components, and what motherboard/case/PSU.

 

Looking for the following:

 

CPU - i9

GPU - RTX 2080ti (purchased already)

RAM - 32GB

HD - 2TB SSD

 

I could care less about the fancies on the case - just need it to be compatible with a motherboard, fit in a case, have sufficient power, and be cooled properly.

 

Anyone here real good with building PCs that would take the time to give me a specific parts list. Ideally around 3K (not including the GPU).

Thanks for any help in advanced!


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I like https://pcpartpicker.com/ for helping choose compatible parts and seeing the relative pricing across multiple outlets.

 

For a CPU the i9's have all the bells and whistles some of which you wont end up using like VT-d and other virtualization technologies, hyperthreading etc unless you are into creative design.  I would rank the clock speed higher then the total number of cores.  Generally speaking more games don't use multi-threading so tossing 18 cores at a poorly multi-threaded game wont really help.  Most use 1-4 cores so anything 6+ is more then enough.  If however you are into creative design, rendering, video production etc, more cores might be a better investment.

 

Generally I would rank clock speed and overclock-ability as the main and for that we need a motherboard that comes with that in mind, most gaming motherboards support and have available overclocking utilities and tools.  

 

The i9's do seem overclockable. check this bad boy out. (don't follow it this is extreme overclocking called deliding lol...)

 

https://www.tomshard...k-ln2,5618.html

 

id suggest trolling the internet for blogs that compare various processors performance in actual games and select one based on that.

 

 

once you select a processor look at the motherboards that support that socket.  I've had great success with Asus and MSI but there are many other great brands.  When you find a Mobo that looks good, check their site out and read through the specs, and see what other lines of boards they have and compare, typically they have a high end gaming line (RGB, overclocking utilities, more PCI lanes etc) and mid-tier line and a budget line for the same socket motherboard.  

 

light motherboard reading:  https://www.tomshard...oards,3984.html


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Research and build your own, its really fun, but with 3k budget you can go all out.  Below is a i9 build based on you wanting one above and a high end compatible mobo, All in One water cooler for the CPU, overclocked RAM and 1000watt power with a sleek modern looking case.

 

 

CPU: https://www.newegg.c...=9SIAA6581U4822

Cooler: https://www.newegg.c...N82E16835181103

MOBO: https://www.newegg.c...N82E16813144052

RAM:  2x   https://www.newegg.c...6-426-_-Product

Case: https://www.newegg.c...078&ignorebbr=1

Power Supply: https://www.newegg.c...082&ignorebbr=1

Harddrive: https://www.newegg.c...0-093-_-Product

 

updated to include 2TB NVMe drive.  Lowered the RAM clock speed to 3000 MHz a lot of tests show minimal improvement beyond 3000 MHz overclocked memory anyway.

 

 

$2551.53


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Thanks guys!  I used to build PCs in high school and one in college but it's been 10 years since then (CRAP).  I'm familiar with the how, just not the current what lol.  @OPrey, your recommendations are awesome.  Seriously going to consider building that machine with the RTX 2080ti as the GPU.  Maybe I will add an internal capture card as well.  Last thing I really would like is a 4K G-Sync monitor to really get the full use out of the RTX 2080ti.


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@GateFather Go big or go home huh? Looking forward to seeing some pics of this new rig once built. PC parts picker is by far the best tool to use for building a pc (imo). I used it to build mine a year ago (with the help of @BlackDeath). Very simple. It even allows you to save your list, check compatibility, and analyze price trends.


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@GateFather Go big or go home huh? Looking forward to seeing some pics of this new rig once built. PC parts picker is by far the best tool to use for building a pc (imo). I used it to build mine a year ago (with the help of @BlackDeath). Very simple. It even allows you to save your list, check compatibility, and analyze price trends.

I'm thinking @OPrey 's build will be good.  I may use that.


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Just my opinion but the PSU is overkill you'll never use 1000 watts.  Even a 2080ti only draws a quarter of that and the most extreme i9 out today only draws 165.  Extreme CPU another waste - name some apps you use that can use 20 cores?  You're also giving up 700MHz on the core clock for what?  You're throwing dollars out the window that could be spent better elsewhere.  I also prefer Samsung Pro series (most current 970 series) drives as well the have FOUR times the read/write speed (2000+ mb/s).  There's nothing wrong with the parts Oprey listed I just have varying tastes.  If you're not going to be running VMs or editing massive video files I see 32GB RAM overkill as well as far as brands I prefer G.Skill Ripjaws variant.  Never had a stick not live up to its XMP profile at stock voltages.  Don't believe the hype that you need to spent $3,000 to have an epic rig.

 

Save on the points I made and invest in a quality 144hz gsync display.


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I am with Black, dont lock yourtself into an i9, there are better gaming processors out there, go with higher clock speed. Black listed some great ways to save too, my build was over the top, there are ways to save and still get that sweet sweet monitor a good 144hz gsync monitor can cost you 500-700 easily.


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I don't want to give recommendations, but I will tell yo what I would do with that budget.  (insert '2 chicks at the same time' joke)  I would get the best i7 out there, the i9 is overkill.  I would ditch the thought of 4k and go with 1440p/120+hz.  Frame rate is king and with the 2080 you can push frames like crazy.  If you are going to get a Ferrari you don't want a pretty paint job to drive through school zones.  Get out and let it rip.  I would get liquid cooling for the cpu and GPU and probably look into a custom loop for more badassery.  The rest just comes down to whatever fits best.


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Just my opinion but the PSU is overkill you'll never use 1000 watts.  Even a 2080ti only draws a quarter of that and the most extreme i9 out today only draws 165.  Extreme CPU another waste - name some apps you use that can use 20 cores?  You're also giving up 700MHz on the core clock for what?  You're throwing dollars out the window that could be spent better elsewhere.  I also prefer Samsung Pro series (most current 970 series) drives as well the have FOUR times the read/write speed (2000+ mb/s).  There's nothing wrong with the parts Oprey listed I just have varying tastes.  If you're not going to be running VMs or editing massive video files I see 32GB RAM overkill as well as far as brands I prefer G.Skill Ripjaws variant.  Never had a stick not live up to its XMP profile at stock voltages.  Don't believe the hype that you need to spent $3,000 to have an epic rig.

 

Save on the points I made and invest in a quality 144hz gsync display.

 

 

I am with Black, dont lock yourtself into an i9, there are better gaming processors out there, go with higher clock speed. Black listed some great ways to save too, my build was over the top, there are ways to save and still get that sweet sweet monitor a good 144hz gsync monitor can cost you 500-700 easily.

 

 

I don't want to give recommendations, but I will tell yo what I would do with that budget.  (insert '2 chicks at the same time' joke)  I would get the best i7 out there, the i9 is overkill.  I would ditch the thought of 4k and go with 1440p/120+hz.  Frame rate is king and with the 2080 you can push frames like crazy.  If you are going to get a Ferrari you don't want a pretty paint job to drive through school zones.  Get out and let it rip.  I would get liquid cooling for the cpu and GPU and probably look into a custom loop for more badassery.  The rest just comes down to whatever fits best.

 

Thanks guys! I am not tied down to an i9, I simply didn't have the knowledge that I could get a better i7 for gaming.  I mainly will use the rig for gaming, but I also do some adobe premiere video creation (more of a hobby though). 

 

I guess at this point I would say that I would really appreciate a list similar to that provided by @OPrey but following @BlackDeath 's recommendations.  My main goals are:

 

  • Be able to play most/all games at highest graphic settings without impact to experience/stream.
  • Be able to use PC CPU or capture card to stream.
  • Get the most out out of the RTX 2080ti both in performance and visuals.

 

@NukeLaCoog I have read a little bit about the custom liquidcooled options for CPU and GPU but I'm not sure I want to take it that far.  I know it helps with performance, but I guess my goals are to not have to use that depth of a build but not have to worry about performance in both graphics, frame rate, and game performance even while streaming at 900p (4000 bitrate).  I know PCpartspicker helps out a lot and I've given it a shot but there are SOOO many components to choose from and I feel like left to my own devices I would build a machine that's subpar for the same price as one some of you experts could recommend that is much better.

 

I trust the folks here so if anyone has a little time to revise @OPrey 's recommendation given @BlackDeath 's recommendations, I would be VERY appreciative!


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I'm running i7 6700k with a 1080ti playing any and all games at 1440p ultra streaming our Forza events 1080p 60fps @ 8mbit bitrate without a shred of impact.  I wouldn't get hung up that streaming impact performance all that much.  What's your uplink mbps wise?  Frankly 900p @ 4mbit should not be taxing whatsoever.

 

What will crunch resources is capturing / encoding video LOCALLY because at that point you're likely writing video files @ 20 to 50mbit bitrate.  Even then usually your first bottleneck is the drive you're writing the file(s) to.


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I have used all of these parts in the past or present.  I love MSI and Corsair brands never having had an issue thus far.  The 200R case has AMAZING cooling with provisions for fans on every damn side.  I did not add an optical drive that's completely up to you if you feel the need.  This setup uses a much faster M.2 drive to boot (OS) from and a larger 2.5" SSD for everything else.

 

This case WILL fit that closed loop cooler I have the exact setup in my kids VR rig right now.  It's not roomy per say but its not obnoxiously large taking up tons of floor / desk space either.  The PSU is fully modular so you only have the cables you need in the case keeping things clean and free flowing.  The motherboard is no frills, has all the common features / tech, its not flashy with lights and bright colors, and its not what I'd call an "elite" overclocking board.  Frankly I don't even bother with overclocking at this stage - with this level of hardware everything is buttery smooth anyhow and why pay 3 or 4x premium to squeeze an extra 200mhz clock?  I just don't see the value personally.  In short this is a no frills get the job done (well) build.  If you want a more flashy case or motherboard feel free to swap those parts out.  EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte are what I'd call tier 1 brands.  ASUS and AsRock tier 2 - only because I've had finicky board of theirs in the past and I HATE their website - it can be a pain in the ass to find what you need and downloads  are slow (pet peeve of mine).  Cases - I can't say I've ever had a bad or shitty case.  I've bought everything from Lian Li, Thermaltake, Corsair.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RdjyHh


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I have used all of these parts in the past or present.  I love MSI and Corsair brands never having had an issue thus far.  The 200R case has AMAZING cooling with provisions for fans on every damn side.  I did not add an optical drive that's completely up to you if you feel the need.  This setup uses a much faster M.2 drive to boot (OS) from and a larger 2.5" SSD for everything else.

 

This case WILL fit that closed loop cooler I have the exact setup in my kids VR rig right now.  It's not roomy per say but its not obnoxiously large taking up tons of floor / desk space either.  The PSU is fully modular so you only have the cables you need in the case keeping things clean and free flowing.  The motherboard is no frills, has all the common features / tech, its not flashy with lights and bright colors, and its not what I'd call an "elite" overclocking board.  Frankly I don't even bother with overclocking at this stage - with this level of hardware everything is buttery smooth anyhow and why pay 3 or 4x premium to squeeze an extra 200mhz clock?  I just don't see the value personally.  In short this is a no frills get the job done (well) build.  If you want a more flashy case or motherboard feel free to swap those parts out.  EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte are what I'd call tier 1 brands.  ASUS and AsRock tier 2 - only because I've had finicky board of theirs in the past and I HATE their website - it can be a pain in the ass to find what you need and downloads  are slow (pet peeve of mine).  Cases - I can't say I've ever had a bad or shitty case.  I've bought everything from Lian Li, Thermaltake, Corsair.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RdjyHh

Wow awesome man thanks so much for your time putting that together.  That is MUCH cheaper than I was expecting and I will take your word on it being able to play and stream well. I do have an Elgato HD60 S I've been using for xbox streaming - i may pickup an internal capture card.  I don't really care about flashy lights and all that, but I am curious what the price jump is to an upgraded motherboard?


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Swap it out with the Pro Carbon AC variant.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sv3tLJ

 

Again I encourage you to define your real world requirements.  I really don't see any benefit to using a capture card while streaming to the web with a single PC setup.  For reference 

 

https://www.reddit.c...rd_do_for_a_pc/

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@Black, I had a internal countdown when you would say something douchey. Congrats, you even defeated my generous estimates.

 

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Swap it out with the Pro Carbon AC variant.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sv3tLJ

 

Again I encourage you to define your real world requirements.  I really don't see any benefit to using a capture card while streaming to the web with a single PC setup.  For reference 

 

https://www.reddit.c...rd_do_for_a_pc/

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https://help.twitch....h-two-computers

 

Interesting - it seems I didn't understand the internal capture card for PC gaming use case - makes sense that it's really only for dual PC streaming setups where another PC only streams using a capture card to capture the gaming PCs screen.  Let me be a bit more detailed into my real world requirements, in order of most to least important:

 

  1. Playing PC games with highest visual settings on best possible monitor (within reasonable cost).  Originally I thought this meant 4k 120hz+ fps and 1-2ms response.  I've since figured out those are outside what I'm willing to pay, so a 120hz 1440p monitor will do the job just fine.
  2. Stream PC games at 900p/4000bitrate+ OR Xbox/Nintendo Switch (via Elgato HD60S capture card) - obviously not at the same time.
  3. Compile Adobe Premiere videos at 4K resolution (mashups/family stuff/etc)
  4. Normal day to day browsing, video watching, etc.

 

I actually do have another PC, a Surface Book 2 15" with a GTX 1060 now that I use for Xbox One and Switch streaming that I could potentially use as a second PC for running OBS and the stream, but I plan to sell this PC to cover for a large part of the cost of the new one.  So, my real world requirement is that I'd like the PC I'm building to be able to both play at highest video settings AND stream at Twitch's maximum allowed bitrates/resolution without missing a beat.  I have 1GBPs down and 35MBps up at my home (stupid comcast).  Has been more than enough from the network side.

 

Last thing I would say is I really want to get the benefit of the RTX 2080ti. I know this means possibly buying a 4K,  high fps,  G-sync monitor at some point, but for now, let's say everything short of that.  Hope this helps.

 

Games I currently play:

  • Destiny 2
  • EvE Online

But I want to build a machine that will play future titles without issue as well.


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If that 4k video is from a drone or some other device you better check what codec it encodes with.  If its proprietary you'll have issues importing it into ANY software and likely will have to re-encode / convert it all.  I found this out the hard way.


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If that 4k video is from a drone or some other device you better check what codec it encodes with. If its proprietary you'll have issues importing it into ANY software and likely will have to re-encode / convert it all. I found this out the hard way.


Nope, although I have an original (old school) parrot 1 drone, I rarely ever fly it and if I do the video is DEFINITELY not 4K. More family events, kids party’s, etc. Shot on iPhone or my DSLR. As of now your most recent build is what I plan to buy. The Surface Book 2 15” should net me around $1,800 to $2,000 so it should be an even (other than the etc 2080ti) nice replacement with much more power.
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For what it's worth:

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Unfortunately for both companies, most game titles respond best to lightly-threaded performance, meaning that very few processor cores are actually active while you play most popular titles. Higher core count processors tend to have lower overall frequencies due to thermal limitations, which leads to lower performance in some game titles than you’d get with a mainstream chip like the Core i7-8700K or the Ryzen 7 27000X.

AMD's mission to boost the average number of cores has led more developers to optimize game engines for higher core counts, but the reality is that most games still perform best on mainstream processors that top out at eight cores. Our recent experimentation reveals that game engines alone do not bear all of the blame for mediocre performance gains--or in some cases reduced performance--that stem from processors with extreme core counts.


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Assuming you're going with a 2080ti I'm not sure you can support that gpu optimally at that budget. Especially if you don't already have all your peripherals. My personal preference to go with that gpu would be an 8700k (delidding recommended) and 3600 MHz or faster RAM. However, above 3200 XMP profiles may not be plug and play. You may be good up to 3600 especially if the ram is on the motherboard QVL.

 

Also, I believe the 2080ti has two 8-pin connectors so consider that when you pick your psu . Try to get the best quality and highest efficiency psu you can. 


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