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Hi everyone,

A lot of Destiny folks have been asking to do raids lately. Being new to the Destiny universe, I personally didn't know a lot of what was entailed in completing one. I had heard horror stories from multiple people about how hard it was to complete one, especially in a group of strangers, or with people who didn't know what they were doing.

This week, I teamed up with several o30s to work our way through the raid. It took 3 nights, maybe 12 hours total for us to figure out good strategies for each room, practice them, and finally complete them. Now that I've done a raid, I can say that everyone on the team needs to work VERY well together and perform their role flawlessly with a high probability, because it requires all 6 people being simultaneously (nearly) flawless to complete each room.

I'm writing here because after getting through this once I feel like I could help others get through as well by sharing strategies in the actual raid. I found that videos were sort of helpful, but it took actually being in the rooms playing to fully understand what to do.

So, I'd be happy to help others (esp. those who haven't done raids before at all) get some experience in pick-up raid sessions where we aren't playing super seriously to get through the raid, but instead just get familiarity with the rooms and maybe get through a couple of them. That way, you'd be able to break off into raid groups that would at least have a sense of what's going on, and be "raid ready". FYI, I'm on PS4.

Regarding raid readiness, I'd really like to avoid having disappointing raid sessions where people are under-leveled, under-skilled, or don't have a good attitude. I'd suggest that anyone attempting a raid meet the following requirements:

1. Gear

I feel like you probably need to be in the mid-270s, after vanguard drops (token trade-ins in the various zones) are no longer dropping gear you can use. I was around 283 when we did our raid, and I could comfortably stay alive, but all of us were in the 280s and 290s, so that could have been why. If you are in the 270s, you may have trouble unless there are higher level people to carry you a little. From our experience, it seemed that high rate of fire weapons like auto rifles were the most useful to have, since you had to kill lots of adds to keep from being overrun. Scout rifles did not have much utility. You'll sometimes run out of ammo on your primary, so having a good secondary weapon is important as well. Also, you'll want a heavy weapon that can do a lot of damage in a short time. The bosses have mechanics where you can only hit them for a brief window of time, and you need to be ready to unload quickly on them when that time comes. Merciless is great, or a good rocket launcher.

2. Skill

It takes a lot of skill to complete these raids, and you really should be ready for that. Good gear can compensate, but only so much. You should feel comfortable doing jumps onto narrow platforms, fighting off 5-6 red enemies around you, or 2-3 reds and a yellow/orange enemy without dying. Knowing when to run and when to stay and fight is very important. Everyone in a raid can only revive someone else one time, so having too many people die is problematic. There are also mechanics in each room that result in everyone instantly dying if you don't melee kill a particular enemy within a time window. You should feel comfortable doing something like that. If you are weak in one of these areas, you still might be okay. There are typically a couple of different roles in each room you can play, and they require different skill-sets. If you've gotten through a Nightfall, or at least maybe got to the boss with 5 minutes or so remaining, you are probably okay here I'm guessing.

3. Attitude

I can't stress how important attitude was in the raid. People can't get too bristly, too discouraged, or too arrogant when there are repeated failures. You need to have some humility, realize that you have some things to learn, try to be patient with others, and have a generally positive outlook. You also need to be able to listen to instruction and be quiet during key portions of the rooms. Many of the strategies require people to call out certain things they see that others can't, and when you can't hear what people are saying it will lead to instant death.

If you feel like you meet the requirements above and want to get some raid experience, hit me up. I'm usually on PSN in the 10pm-1am time frame, eastern time US. Maybe some other o30s can offer up services as well below.

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Well done @Mathoid you are an asset to the clan :)
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Thank you @Mathoid, this is a fantastic writeup!  I particularly would like to give my own thumbs up to point 3. There are a couple of things to keep in mind, first off this is a game and it's meant to be fun, I sometimes have to remind myself of that.  The second point is that raids are definitely the hardest thing that destiny has to offer; it takes a lot of time, you will die *a lot*, it gets really sweaty and really frustrating, but in the end, when that chime sounds or that boss goes down in flames it's awesome.  To me the most rewarding aspect of raiding is not the loot, it's the jubilation, the tea bagging and the general shenanigans that go on after.  It's the close calls, the clutch revives, the made it to 90% and then wipe, but when you finally get the boss and a big old "hell yeah!" erupts at the end, to me that's better than the loot and the reason that I play this game.  Thanks to my 5 fellow members of the Destiny Super Awesome Raid Team, I had a blast!

 

That being said, I'd like to offer up my services as well, I'm usually on in the evenings CST, feel free to ping me.

 

>> blarnath


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Nice write up!  I'm still trying to get my Power level up before I start on the raids (although I have unlocked them).  Sounds like you guys had a blast.  If I can level up soon I'll hit you guys up, as I really want to give this a shot.  I've never done a raid before, so I'm hoping I won't blow it for everyone.   :P


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@JBrown, looking forward to raiding with you.  Honestly, as far as I'm concerned there is no blowing it for everybody :) If you've never raided before there are a ton of mechanics to get used to and comfortable with, the fireteam will wipe *a lot* it's all part of it, sometimes it's a collective mistake, others it's a single guardian, but it doesn't matter.  If you keep failing at a certain spot, mix it up, try a different role, or just switch sides.  With a lot of these encounters you go to the same plate every time and can get sort of tunnel vision, so switching spots or roles can help.


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@blarnath That’s some really good advice as well. All you can do sometimes is just to mix it up. No worse feeling then that of thinking you are letting the team down.
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very good write up @Mathoid.  hope to get into some raids with the o30c clan..just got 2 of my characters to 285/287.  


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Hi guys :)  I am new to the clan.  I am also playing on console again for the first time in about 10 years...so I am really rusty and trying to get my muscle memory going again with the thumb sticks.  It will be  A LONG while until I feel comfortable raiding at all with you guys.  But, I am still enjoying the game and would like others to explore with.  Does o30c have a clan in Destiny 2 that I can join?  I know there is a club and I will look for it this afternoon.


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It has been separated by platform now @Casinora, which one are you playing on?
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I am on Xbox.


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@Casinora I sent an invite through Bungie.net
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Thanks @Mathoid! I was just about to write a "I'm kind of new to all this Destiny stuff, and want to get started with raids (and crucible, trials, etc.) without everyone being totally irritated at the noob" post, and then I saw yours here.

I'll definitely look you up on PSN soon, and maybe you can guide a "tour"?

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Great points @Mathoid, I've never completed a raid myself. My work schedule doesn't allow for me to get home at a decent time weeknights. Maybe somebody will be raiding during the weekend. I'm currently at 302 power. Finished the first nightfall (arms dealer) with @blarnath and @Mot1on187 with two seconds left. That was a good time.
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I am looking to raid soon myself. At least finish a room or something. Maybe we can start a weekend raid group for all of us slow leveling guys. I finished all raids at least once on D1
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I've just leveled a second character, and need to finish the story, but it should be raid-ready by the weekend. Maybe we can get a group together!

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My main is a 281 Hunter, but I've never done a D2 raid, so I'd be up for one on the weekend with some 30's who're willing to guide and advise. Name's the same on PSN, so friend me and let's do it!


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I've completed the raid up to Calus.  I am a 293 Warlock...anyone feel like helping me finish the raid?  I've been a member of this clan for a while and hardly ever play with Clanmates.  Honestly thought it would be more of a tight group...not the case.


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@freefaln94 The 3 player fireteam limit really doesn't help.

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@freefaln94 The fact you haven’t played with clan mates is on you. I’ve said it before and I will say it again, you get out of the clan what you put in. Great bunch of people here but we see lots of people come and go. Lots stay too, those who actively invite members or join in on parties are the ones that get the most from the o30c’s. @Mathoid is right though, 3 player fireteams don’t really help the cause. This is why people need to join active parties and just hang out and shoot the shit.
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I get limited time to play during the week, but I will say I can jump in any of the xbox1 clan fireteams and always have a good time. Shout out to Fireman Bautista. We are level 4 on XB1 as a clan now!
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